PARLOTONES ABANDON SOUTH AFRICA AND SUPPORT GERMANY
Product endorsements and commercialisation aside; aligning yourself with another nation and singing for their victory in a tournament which is being held on your home soil (a tournament in which your own country is competing), may well be the final straw for Parlotones fans.
“Aligning” might be a bit tame. By the looks of their new website (the-parlotones.de), it seems as if the Parlotones have in fact defected to Germany. In their new song, which is widely celebrated in Germany, the ex-South African band sing for the German football side to “Come Back As Heroes.”
It is not known when or why their new affiliation came about, but here is the bombshell video that has left SA fans completely bewildered.
No, it was sold out..
Wow! I’m speechless..
Commericalisation is a part of business growth and, whilst 2oceansvibe can be teased and get a bit of flack here and there for promoting various brands and products, one thing stands true – these are products and services that we believe in and want to use and choose to use. Some of them pay, some of them don’t. It is common knowledge, for example, that I only use Ponds face wash, and they don’t pay me a red cent.
Be careful not to confuse this with “selling out.” Selling out is if I accepted R1 million to endorse and feature Crocs shoes on 2oceansvibe – a product that I have never and never will like (except on the feet of chefs and kids). And that’s exactly why you have never seen it advertised on 2oceansvibe. It is this very reason that sees 2oceansvibe often turning down brands and services which we do not believe in – something a lot of readers out there are unaware of.
All of that said, if Germany knocked on my suite at the Cape Royale hotel, and offered me R3 million (or any figure for that matter) to support Germany winning the World Cup, would I do it?
No, I wouldn’t.
Check out the Parlotones German website here and find out more about their song made in support of Germany bringing home the cup.
* Kahn, the lead-singer of The Parlotones has subsequently responded to this article. You can see his responce here.
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108 Comments
stacey
15 Jun 2010
What dont the Parlotones endorse??? its getting ridiculous..from KFC to Germany.
All respect lost!
Byron Rode
15 Jun 2010
I have never liked the band, and have firmly believed that they are sellouts. In an twitter debate the other night, I voiced this. Disgusting.
jonathan
15 Jun 2010
Ooh, this is a little blip on the “golden boys” or should that be “Goldjunge” of the South African rock scene…
It has only hit home now though, didn’t germany have a goalie named Kahn?
Wiehann
15 Jun 2010
Your “Parlotones German website here” link points to your “ponds-flawless-matte” page.
JosieCT
15 Jun 2010
Shocking! And don’t worry, Seth, we completely understand the differences. One thing is for sure you are tru to your tastes and your brands. What you do compared to what these guys do is very different and I feel sorry for the people out there that can’t tell the difference. From CT xxx
Jo’burg Fan
15 Jun 2010
Sellouts. I notice the eye makeup is also missing.
Time for a good ol’ boycott of all things Parlotones!
Sean
15 Jun 2010
Another kak song from a fantastically kak band. The Germans can have ‘em. Maybe now people will stop calling them South Africa’s top rock band when they are anything but.
Christy
15 Jun 2010
They have finally realised that their true place is in the hallowed (eh hem) halls of eurotrash music.
Parlotones Fan
15 Jun 2010
Seth you idiot , it’s all forms part of there tour and growing fan base in germany , before you write articles like this you should check with there publicist first .They are also doing the same in fanparks in SA when they return in 2 weeks time .
You got this one wrong , i have been a long time reader of your humerous posts , but this is way off the mark .
Umhlanga local
15 Jun 2010
I’m no Parlotones fan and yes, they’re over-exposed but I am interested to know if you are going to lay into Vusi Mahlasela whose ‘When You Come Back’ was re-recorded especially by him to be ITV’s official theme song for the cup?
Neil
15 Jun 2010
I think that’s a bit harsh! They probably got involved with that shit 6 years ago when we won the WC bid, while no one here offered them anything. It’s a business and it could all be over tomorrow. I’m glad you use PONDS Seth, I find it works for my tricky complextion too! For 1 Million bucks you would pimp those crocs to the max and even try convince us their cool! The keepers name was Oliver!
Jason
15 Jun 2010
hmmm… I don’t think its fair on our side to turn our backs on them. Work is work… I think one needs to do everything in their power (in the music industry) to get to the top.
As a follower of Kahn and the boys, I have always believed that they are proudly SA and will always be true to their home land.
I know many people who do things in their jobs they don’t like but have to do it to get to the top… is this not one of those cases?
If this is the case then we need to turn our backs on all the sports men and women that have left SA to grow in their sports…
thoughts??
megan
15 Jun 2010
So what? They have a huge fan base in Germany. Just because they sing a song for their German fans & the world cup, does not mean they have forgotten their roots. And I’m pretty sure they will do fine without the endorsement of 2Oceansvibe. I do think using the word abandon in the title is a bit of a stretch.
JackZanto
15 Jun 2010
I say more power to them. Drink it while it’s fizzy! They know they are in business and not just messing around being wannabe rock stars.
Not many South African bands have made it huge outside SA. Once they have a few hits it usually falls apart and they end up working in music shops or owning a drive through car wash.
In the US all the celebs do endorsements and appearances for a fee. It creates wealth and wealth gives them a chance at doing music forever.
RM
15 Jun 2010
Its not surprising, they are manufactured freaks, go fuck yourselves Parlotones, you suuuuuuck!
MaCaNiX
15 Jun 2010
Oh come now Seth…
You trying to tell me that if SAB Miller approached you with a six figure offer to promote their products you wouldn’t drop Jack Black faster than you could say “an iPad is more useful than a net-book”???
I think not….. :/
Craig
15 Jun 2010
Baha! You’re having a laugh…For 1 Million bucks, you would apply your daily PONDS regime, leave Cape Royale, head to Cafe Caprice and punt some other brand all while in your crocs. Please bud, you would move to Durban for the right money Indianoceanvive…I like it!
Gazzafm
15 Jun 2010
You are ignorant if you think playing a song for your fans is selling out, then you should carry on listening to your no talent no ambition bands….. Music is also a business people, if your good at something never do it for free!!!!
Sean Van Staden
15 Jun 2010
That is disgraceful,
After all those year I supported them. They were my favourite band but because they went and did something like that, they might as well move their butts to Australia like the rest of those looser who is not making South Africa a better place.
The next time they play, I will make the concerted effort to attend just to enjoy them BOOing them off stage. A fate most deserved!
ps, there is no difference between Parlatone and a whore. They both sell themselves for money with no loyalty to anyone especially thier own country.
PS thanks for putting me in a bad mood for the rest of the day…
silverstreak
15 Jun 2010
At least they’ll still be able to play gigs in Higgovale. And Namibia too, maybe.
Jan
15 Jun 2010
Excellent song, love it. I also think Germany are clever getting an SA band to endorse them… BRILLIANT!!! If SA wanted in on the action I guess they should have offered them the same… To be honest I think this article is a little juvenile?
Meerkat Maven
15 Jun 2010
I knew there was a reason I could never warm to this band’s sound, vibe or image. Sis. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Collin
15 Jun 2010
Two points to be made here:
1. Where is the South African team’s theme song?
2. If you wanted to build your music career? Would you align your music with a successful brand (i.e. the German football team) or something lesser?
Brett
15 Jun 2010
Shame is everyone gonna be alright in 2OV territory??? Jealousy makes you nasty! I guess the Protea cricket team are also sellouts and Bryan Habana and Schalk Burger! Endorsements pay bills stupids!
Whatever
15 Jun 2010
Let’s try check it out. If anyone out there has cash to promote a product, please offer it to Seth! I’m keen to see if he bites! 2 Oceansvibe headline tomorrow – “Crocs – They’re cool!”
anne
15 Jun 2010
Shame Seth, are you living the life of the barter trade brand! I’m sure some days you’de kill for a Pizza Perfect pizza but Butlers is still half decent!
ct_gal
15 Jun 2010
I don’t dig the Parlatones – AT ALL! I feel ear-raped whenever hearing the guys voice BUT I do feel I need to clarify that the Song was chosen for a 2010 Image Campaign of a German TV Channel and not as an actual song to support the german team. But it got so popular…blaaa you know how it works!
Dont hate the playa is all im saying
Ayoba!
ct_gal
15 Jun 2010
I don’t dig the Parlatones – AT ALL! I feel ear-raped whenever hearing the guys voice BUT I do feel I need to clarify that the Song was chosen for a 2010 Image Campaign of a German TV Channel and not as an actual song to support the german team. But it got so popular…blaaa you know how it works!
Dont hate the playa… is all im saying
Ayoba!
Lesley
15 Jun 2010
Really…did you really try and explain selling out there to us. “Be careful not to confuse being stupid with making money. Making money is accepting R1 Million to sing one song to a bunch of people, even if I didn’t write the song.”
Crumbs Seth – Your site is the yellow pages of semi sellouts – do you have a coffee at caprice, even though it’s not vida cofee????????
Saul
15 Jun 2010
Hey they’re musicians and good on them for making a living.
if you’re selling a product who cares who buys as long as it sells.
screw the parlotones but much respect for their success.
Thomas
15 Jun 2010
Seth, you’re on the cover of Get it magazine and Juice magazine and I bet you did it for free. Too sexy for camps bay? Do me a favour! Did you write those articles yourself. Those magazines are shit, you sold out by not waiting for GQ or entrepreneur, all the things you want to be. You just wanted to be on the cover of a magazine. Those crap magazines wont raise your profile, neither will writing shit articles that entice people to disrespect a band that has been trying to making a living in the SA music scene for over 10 years! wake the fuck up, one day you’ll be fat and on the cover of Avacado eating a butlers pizza!
chris
15 Jun 2010
Abandon! Are you smoking your Puma running shoes! WTF – Some of your readers are crazy: They sound very upset! I’m sure you have this story all fucked up anyway!
marta
15 Jun 2010
Mmmmmm! Are you sure you got the story correct? I know they doing a lot around SA for the World Cup too. They could be promoting SA while out there you know.
timclark
15 Jun 2010
2Oceansvibe is kak! Who cares what a “lifestyle” website says about the real world anyway! The Parlotones are cool, more power to spreading SA made music!
chris bolze
15 Jun 2010
What a bunch sell-out gimps !
Stu
15 Jun 2010
Never liked the Parlotones anyway, but it is all abit weird.
By all the shat they endorse, seems like there manager would sell his and their soul to anyone for some cash.
InTheLoop
15 Jun 2010
I have two stories I would like to tell about Seth Rotherham. Firstly, my brother works with the marketing team who do stuff for Nixon watches. Apparently it is absolute truth that they approached Seth with money and free watches and he turned them down because he likes his own watch (not sponsored) more than Nixon. They asked if he didn’t want to negotiate and he declined saying he preferred the brand he was wearing to Nixon and the money was irrelevant. All very politely handled I am told.
Second story comes from a friend of mine who is in Seth’s “inner circle” and he says that Seth is known for always asking for his sponsored brands before ordering anything else. So he will first ask for a Jack Black beer and then only order something else if they don’t have. What’s more he advises the manager that it is a pity that they don’t have and then he puts the place in touch with the brand via email.
The guy’s got integrity, you got to give him that.
Also some of you out there might find this article Seth mentioned the last time a sponsorship argument like this came up – http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2009/07/24/an-important-message-for-the-new-2oceansvibers-out-there/
lauren
15 Jun 2010
I love the Parlotones! Wish our organisers had got them more involved locally. 2OV is getting a bit tired i think!
RealMarketingGuy
15 Jun 2010
I read in an article about Seth that he has a degree in marketing. A lot of you seem to be confused about what he and 2Oceansvibe are doing. There is a big difference between “selling out” and being passionate about brands. Seth is passionate about the brands he loves. He is very far from being a sellout – trust me, it’s my job to know these things.
SSS
15 Jun 2010
Whether or not they also promote the world cup in SA, for SA, is irrelevant. The point is that as South Africans, they should support SA, no-one else.
This is no different from all the wannabe English supporters who only support England because the premiership is all that Supersport is force-feeding them.
It’s just that much worse if you do it for fame and fortune.
Marc
15 Jun 2010
Intheloop, your cheque is waiting for you.
2oceansverimark. This blog is all endorsements, zero content. The only decent posts are being written by silverstreak, anyway.
For 3 million, Seth would move to Dresden, wear Lederhosen and change the name of the blog to Germanvibe.
Seth: Go back to writing good entries and the free stuff will still roll through the door.
dino
15 Jun 2010
Don’t hate the player Seth!
Tammy
15 Jun 2010
it was because of 2Oceans that I tried butlers pizza and I have never looked back! best pizza in the world hands down!
Muso
15 Jun 2010
I have no doubt Seth just wrote this to cause a bit of kak but the fact remains that it is all rather confusing. Whether the act was intentional or not, there is a video of the band singing in the middle of a German stadium with everyone waving German flags and they’re singing for the German team to “come back as heroes”. All I can say is the Parlotones PR people did very badly not clearing this up BEFORE the song went out. Very badly handled.
Meanpeoplesuck
15 Jun 2010
The Parlotones can eat wherever the fuck they want, wear what they want, drive what they want. That’s the difference, they don’t have to choose something because it’s on their website. Aligning with KFC might not have been the best idea but you can’t compare seths watch deal with a company that owns 50% of the fast food market in SA, or singing the damn German soccer song, Gernamy are soccer giants btw, it’s a big fucking deal. We’re talking real money here, not nixon watches and some pocket change. No band is going to make everyones fucking ears dance, its impossible! It’s always the ones who care the least that have the meanest things to say!
MagentaValkyrie
15 Jun 2010
I’d just like to say that this is typical South African, you people can’t enjoy the success of your fellow peers without tearing them down. This is a band and this is their profession, they are being paid to do this and at the end of the day we should be proud that a South African band is doing so well internationally. Look at the opening concert we had here for FIFA 2010 the SA musicians had to beg to be part of it, while we flocked to see International artists, to me that is more disgusting than The Parlotones singing one endorsement song for Germany, come on guys grow up and realize that if we actually paid our musicians better and supported them more than we do maybe they wouldn’t have to take their talent else where and actually get paid good money for what they do. I am shocked and horrified that the South African can turn it’s back so easily on a band that the claimed to love, no wonder this country is going no where.
LOVE THE PARLOTONES ALWAYS HAVE ALWAYS WILL!!!!!
DavidT
15 Jun 2010
The Parlotones dont suck because they support Germany, they suck because they are a shit band. Naturally, there are people that like them because they enjoy regurgitated DSTV ad music and it gives them that feeling of recognition. There are better bands playing tiny gigs in pubs all over the country.
BTW,
1. To the Seth haters posting here: You are naiive if you think someone can run a successful blog that generates a real income and not be passionate about brands and punt them as often as possible. Do you get pissed off when you find that every second page in your favourite magazine is an advert? No, I didnt think so. That is monetization of a product, finish & klaar.
2. Seth Rotherham is the ONLY blogger in SA that is making decent money out of his blog. If I am wrong with this statement, please correct me in this post. I challenge you to prove me wrong. And by real money I mean enough to have a decent Cape Town lifestyle, not some guy with a gripe that once made R150-00 using AdSense.
Keep it up Seth, and to German music fans, you are welcome to the Parlotones… and the Hof for that matter – He’s equally talented.
Shaun Custers
15 Jun 2010
You bunch of hypocrites, a few months ago you probably didn’t even support SA football. How many of you have been to watch a bafana game before the World cup or Confed cup?
The German market is much bigger than the SA market, suck it up haters.
I’m South African and I support Holland in the football, how many of you have a ‘second’ team aka a team that has a real chance of winning?
Brett
15 Jun 2010
Do i like the fact that Parlotones are out there punting another team? No, of course not. Do i blame them, considering the money and, more importantly, the exposure? Hell no.
The music industry in this country is a nightmare. Making it here is hard, and many of the bands who do manage to get signed locally still end up having to hold day jobs to pay the bills. Parlotones is the first SA band to really take advantage of the marketing opportunities emerging in this country and, under the circumstances, can’t be blamed for it.
Music is a career. Ask the abstract artist who paints lion herds because tourists buy them, ask the sci-fi writer who covers florist conventions so he can eat. if you want to be able to do what you love, you have to be able to get into a position where you can make your own decisions regarding your career and you’ll never manage that if you’re sharing a canned tuna with your cat each night.
They managed to go international. Kudos to them. it’s every musician’s dream.
That all said, i am disappointed. I’m disappointed that it took another country hiring one of our premier bands to support their team while competing on our soil for people to look up and go, “Heck, why didn’t we do that?” I’m disappointed that, even with all the amazing talent we have in this country, Shakira is singing the World Cup theme song.
Our country should have been there first. simple as that.
Unimpressed
15 Jun 2010
Seth, I thought with you being the brand whore that you are, you should be proud and take a few notes. Keep on selling.
And oh, A+ for the objective manner in which you wrote the article – naaaaaaaaaaattttt.
Churchill
15 Jun 2010
What the fuck!?
Tony
15 Jun 2010
Hey Unimpressed, did you miss the link to the article someone posted earlier in this comments section? Some of the anti-Seth points above have merit, but you have missed the point altogether.
http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2009/07/24/an-important-message-for-the-new-2oceansvibers-out-there/
I dig the parlotones, but them singing for another country and making a music video with that other country really does sting. no matter what you say. the reality is that seeing that video hurts me. surely that means something?
In terms of seth turning down brands he doesn’t like, i think that says it all.
respect!
Damian
15 Jun 2010
I dont really care about this article, I just would like to say, if an English or Brazilian or German band… played a song supporting another team.
They probably would be the most hated band in their country.
Saying that, if this shitty lil band wants to make some money in a bigger country … go for it.
Its all about the football anyway, not music.
Mike
15 Jun 2010
Hi guys,
The South African (African) record/music market is too small. Now we have produced a few world class artists, and we cannot blame them for trying to make a living. As long as they remember where they from. Look at U2 Bono is giving back and he is proud of his irish heritage.
No doubt in my mind our artists will do the same once they have made it.
Give them a break and a chance.
Paul Hodgson
15 Jun 2010
http://www.facebook.com/theparlotones#!/notes/the-parlotones/our-response-to-seth-rotherham-from-2-oceans-vibe-on-him-accusing-us-of-abandoni/402787129447
Kahn’s response to Seth, and to everyone else who hates us, accuses us of selling out, and (worst of all) questions our love of SOUTH AFRICA.
SnappyCrappy
15 Jun 2010
What a load of nonsense – so Shakira can be the offical song of the World Cup and oh my goodness – not banished by her country, but wow it’s held in South Africa! Get over yourself and your ego, they’re a fabulou band that is succeeding and taking SOUTH AFRICA further than our boundaries – tame your jealousy you arrogant fool!!!!!!
Asheeqah
15 Jun 2010
It seems that you’ve forgotten something. The Parlotones are MUSICIANS. It is a HUHUUUGE industry and they need to broaden their horizons as musicians in order to survive in the industry!!!! Hence promoting themselves in Germany. You are obviously extremely narrow minded otherwise you would have understood this. Don’t be hating.
The Parlotones are AWESOME!! And nothing that haters like YOU say will change that. Just because they decided to sing a song for Germany does NOT mean that they’re abandoning South Africa. As a successful businessman yourself I’d think you’d understand this.
Cheers
Maggie
15 Jun 2010
Business is business. Is Shakira a sell-out of her country just because she sang a song endorsing the “Africa” World Cup? Grow up. And grow a pair. If you like them, listen to their music, if you don’t then don’t. That’s what personal taste is about. By all means buy a ticket to their next SA concert (and help them make even more money) before attempting to boo them off stage. See who feels better after that one.
Hayley
15 Jun 2010
Seth, Seth, Seth. Grow up little man. The world LOVES this band and yet you cannot see this? They have made most of us/me goose-flesh proud. SA music has come a million miles since the days of Rabbit, who we needed back in the day too! We should be shouting our joy and their praises from the mountain tops! Instead you choose to create such negativity? This is not the way to higher consciousness and the promotion of peace & unity in the world. I have wasted enough time on your blog for now… Last word: I LOVE the Parlotones, always have and always will-keep on doing what makes your heart sing guys!
hilarious!
15 Jun 2010
Anyone noticed the wave your flag song…..sung by a cameronian (I think….don’t care) and the official SA 2010 song sung by SHAKIRA….
So why can’t the parletones take on another country?!
Doesn’t shar-lees live in hollywood? Do we mind as long as she brings sa some much needed positive pr?
Get a life seth
knowsomethingboutbusiness
15 Jun 2010
Seth, frankly your ignorance is astounding. You sit with Mweb and DSTV and fuck knows what other adverts on your site, based your website name on a brand of Distell wines which are decidedly mediocre and want to use your forum to criticise. You cannot even come up with an original name for your site! Buddy, leave the thinking for people with brains and focus on your pathetic blog instead.
Criticising a band making it big as a South African export just because you have a forum to do so smacks to me of attention seeking. Let’s face it, you have all of a sudden seen a dramatic jump in website hits eh? Not because you actually did something right, but because Kahn posted something on Facebook. You are riding their wave.
Judging by the quality of your other posts, you are just another wannabe. Keep it up big boy – the little credibility you had… is now gone.
James
15 Jun 2010
If U2 had to do a song about another country “coming back as heroes” during the world cup, while it was being played in Ireland, are you telling me the Irish wouldn’t mind?
Get real people, Seth probably did this for publicity, but the fact remains, this is some very poor decision making and timing on the bands’ part. Are their managers and PR people drunk?
Imagine Beyonce doing a massive song with a music video of her at Wembley with English supporters cheering in the stands as she sings for England’s footballers to come home as heroes? During the world cup? And the world cup was hosted in the states at the time? Can you imagine that happening?
Never ever.
Liesbet
15 Jun 2010
This is a pathetic discussion and seems like you have nothing better to write about. And how naive of a journalist to write an article after one incident, forgetting to take into consideration everything else that they are doing, standing for, has been doing etc. If you even made the smallest of efforts to read their blogs, follow their acts, listen to their interviews… you wouldn’t have bothered with a silly song. All I can remember about everything they have said ever, is how patriotic and
Super SA they are! Commend them for really making a success and having a huge fan base, world wide. If you prefer different music, fine, but no need to judge characters who have done absolutely nothing wrong, instead more right than nothing at all!
Martin
15 Jun 2010
Seth, I am living in Germany and I can assure you that I haven’t heard of “The PARLOTONES”. They were not on TV before the first game on sunday either and this time has actually been the first time I have heard their song!
Charlene Hogan
15 Jun 2010
Why don’t you rather than punt “Ponds” as your Facewash use a South African made brand such a as Environ…You are such a patriot!
21Jump
15 Jun 2010
Seth, this reminds me of your master stroke with Randall and the Idols bunch! The way you reel them in like some kind of expert angler. Great to watch.
Charlene Hogan
15 Jun 2010
Amazing how when one of our own does so well, and they are doing well, we cannot just be proud and happy for the successful. Whether you like their music or not, The Parlotones are an amazing band with the gumption to go out there and work! They are 4 local boys with more guts than most of us will ever have. Give them their dues…Imagine if Queen had not stuck their necks out to come to South Africa in the 1980′s and faced a Ban for doing it, how much poorer we would have been for not experiencing their magic.
Parlotones…you guys rock!
Andreas
15 Jun 2010
Seth has integrity because he likes his watch? Or Seth has the business sense of a mountian goat?
I wont confuse the two.
Big up to the Parlotones for flying the South African flag with pride.
Oh yes, Seth, what is your reason for not endorsing Liletts?
Stu
15 Jun 2010
This is good Seth. You’ve really got them excited this time. To all the people swearing and carrying on and freaking out take it from me the joke is on you. I mean that. You’ve fallen right into his trap. Don’t you get it? Is someone taking notes on what is going on here?
GH
16 Jun 2010
You are seriously delusional and misguided.
You obviously do not like the band which is made quite clear. Please do not criticise people who endorse product by referring to them as corporate whores when you do this yourself in your so called “article” – please explain your reasoning behind the links to Pond’s and Cape Royale – how much were you paid to mention them? Sounds like a sell out to me!!!
So tell me do you really BELIEVE in PUSSY Energy Drink for the product or did the name just tickle your fancy????
Marley
16 Jun 2010
Wow I really enjoyed this very negative and (un)patriotic article. As for the R3 mil, don’t kid yourself bro.. I bet that was written without any forethought. Kak like this is usually spewed when others are jealous of a person’s success.
Society constantly requires that we set ourselves apart from the masses – but when we do we are shot down.
What’s worse is the obvious agreement from the groupies on this website, who gives a toss if you don’t like the Parlotones music? No band in SA has worked harder to achieve success and at least they represent local talent. Or could you name a better local band that would appeal to the international community? Exactly.. So stfu and go back to being anonymous bloggers trying to justify procrastination.
sean mhlongo
16 Jun 2010
seth go suck parlo-balls ,u suck dude…….u suck ,parlotones 4 president
Danielle Hamman
16 Jun 2010
It must be reaaaaally embarrassing to have read Kahn’s eloquent and well written response to your hypocritical, terribly written and badly thought out drivel.
Only you guys look like the poepols now…
Bazzer
16 Jun 2010
….so what’s the difference between Brian Habana leaving Blue Bulls to play a ‘foreign’ team – The Stormers ….. money talks!! All for endorsements. Do we feel any different about Brian Habana now as a player?
Hope you never downloaded illegal songs……
rob
16 Jun 2010
OWN GOAL Seth – never seen such a lot of corporate crap to get to your article graciously posted by Kahn.
It’s D-grade ‘journalism’ and opinion pieces like this that pull our country down.
Lets celebrate our artists and see the beautiful irony of a truly SA brand being asked to help the German team in our WC! (try that angle and you may get just a little respect rather than a red card in future)
Rodrick Budzynski
16 Jun 2010
Johnny Sisofo
Tom Campbell
16 Jun 2010
I’m with Seth on this I’m afraid. What does their music have to do with it? All Seth did was highlight the poorly managed release of a song which suggested Parlotones were supporting Germany. It was ambiguous and Seth saw a gap and took it. Do you REALLY think Seth believes the Parlotones were supporting Germany? Do you really think a person who has built up something like 2oceans doesn’t know what he is doing? Does anyone remember when he did this to Dave and Randall at Idols? He had Randall ranting and raving on 5FM by the end of it and his hits probably doubled. The music video is actually irrelevant. Seth is the winner here and the more you comment (positive or negative) the more he wins. He can only win. Anyone who understands business and marketing will know what I’m talking about. Well done Seth, you’ve very good at what you do bru.
donmulto
16 Jun 2010
Lets have a look on Seth’s previous views on The Parlotones.
“I must say I was also particularly impressed with the Parlotones. Keep that shit up, guys – highly entertaining”-Seth Rotherham
“I HIGHLY recommend you check it out. CLICK HERE to read about the festival and choose which event suits you. Parlotones on Friday I believe..”-Seth Rotherham
[*Video soundtrack is "Window Shopper" by The Parlotones]-Video Seth created using The Parlotones for the soundtrack.
Go have a look here http://www.2oceansvibe.com/index.php?s=parlotones
Seems like Seth was quite fond of them until they ‘defected’ to Germany.
Really good 2300 word paper Kahn summoned up in a few hours in between being a famous pop-rock star, drinking wine and eating KFC. I wish he could use his essay writing skills in his songwriting. What a pity.
Maybe they have already met at Caprice over a few Jack Black beers, who knows.
Hamish
16 Jun 2010
Cheap marketing tactic. If you can’t add content to your website that keeps or get traffic here, resort to playground bitch tactics. I mean lets be honest, you’re hardly the poster child for integrity with your website starting to looking like an advert catalogue more than anything. If the parlotones are corporate whores, you must be the grand madame
givemeabreak
16 Jun 2010
It’s actually embarrassing how clueless the parlotones emo fans are. Seth has not “sold out” or over endorsed himself. It’s a website which he happens to be the face of. It’s exactly like a magazine. Magazines are jam packed full of ads and no-one runs around saying the editor of the magazine is a sellout or a corporate whore! why do you think brands love him so much? because they get the exposure on the site (the magazine) and they also get him running around town using their product and telling everyone about it. quite convincingly too it looks like! Seriously you people are very immature and emotional and misguided.
In my opinion Seth is simply in another league and is looking down at all of you like little puppets. He is playing with you like puppets.
Dallace Jolly
16 Jun 2010
Seth, that shade of green really does not suit you at all. But apparently the taste of sour grapes is one you savour. And no, the fact that you are ‘hurting’ really doesn’t matter to the cast majority of South Africans who have a realistic view on life. Smile and the world smiles with you (kinda like the Parlotones are doing), whinge and you whinge alone!
Denice
16 Jun 2010
For someone who does not like the Parlotones – you sure do spend a lot of time taking them down. Maybe your inner desire would like to be part of the band!
Free Man
16 Jun 2010
Seth, just one question. Do you actually know how crippled you are, and just do a great job pretending that you love your brand-centric life? Or are you completely oblivious? I hope it’s the second option. I’d hate for you to get old alone and realise you sold your youth to mega-corporations for nothing in return.
Leon
16 Jun 2010
Seth rocks!
The people who are dissing him are just jealous because he is a success and has managed to build a very successfull business and lives the life most people can only dream off.
So stop being such player haters!
Tylee
16 Jun 2010
Firstly, SETH, and all the other idiots who don”t know what the hell they are talking about, can any of you people tell me what you have ever done to make your country proud? Have you ever done anything half as remarkable as putting South Africa on the map as a place that is proven to have talent that can actually compete on an international level?? Has anyone of you proven to any other country that South Africa way more than they ever thought or ever known! You are all hypocrites for degrading the Parlotones like this, only because they are too “over exposed” and endorsed, and because they sang a song for Germany???
You all talk about supporting you’re country, then why don’t you support one of South Africa’s first bands to make it this big world wide???? You are all narrow minded hypocrites. At the opening ceremony for the soccer world cup we had Shakira, Akon, and a number of other world celebs singing in support for africa, Does that make them any worse than Parlotones??
EVERYONE PLEASE GO READ KHANS RESPONSE TO SETH’S IDIOTIC ARTICLE BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING ELSE. RESPECT to Khan for being such an inspiration to every struggling artist and giving us all hope that we can make it big one day. This band has done way more for the pride and image of this country than all you stupid muppets have EVER done.
Seth, be glad your face is very well known because it represents all the small minded, irritating pricks in this world. You and most of the people who posted idiotic crap are more of an embarrassment to this country than anything else.
cobie
16 Jun 2010
OMW! So you can just as well say now….cos i have a German boyfriend and not a South African one, I support Germany?! And even worse…Im in Germany during the whole world cup visiting my German boyfriend! How unpatriotic of me…hahaha…Bullshit! The Parlotones is an awesome band and they will always be! Who cares what unimportant wannabe’s have to say!!!?? You rock Kahn!
Mike
16 Jun 2010
Parlotones making it big overseas is one thing. Good for them (I don’t like them). Parlotones singing a song for the German Soccer Team to win the World Cup when your own team is participating in same competition: completely different.
Fuck you Parlotones. That sucks some monster dick. I wouldn’t be surprised if even some Germans have some raised eyebrows about this. Not sure they’re supporting you as much as they’re stoked they were able to lure you away with cash from singing a South African song to fuck you. Ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha.
katypea
16 Jun 2010
So much to say, so little space — but I’ll say it anyway. It’s great to see the return to a comment list to rival the Idols incident and the Apple store debacle. Seth, honey it’s been a while. I’m not wading into the fray about the Parlotones – enough people have done that already. But something else struck a chord with me through the course of perusing the article and the comments: you’ve very sadly gone awol and I fear that “2oceans” and “vibe” have parted ways. I appreciate the branded model and how it works for you as a business, but I fear you’ve lost sight of what — and who — got you here today. We’re the audience and it is our interest, happiness to endorse and return visits over and over that have helped towards your overall success. But the 2oceansvibe that was, it truly that: was. Gone are the engaging posts, the devil-may-care attitude, the edge, and the pure Seth-ness. As your empire expands you’re diluting the original offering (enter silverstreak, who, bless, does write a good post but isn’t you)and you’ve taken that foundation flavour with you. When was the last time Mavis made an appearance? When she did, she was probably cleaning with Woolies products while sipping a Jack Black and probably playing on your latest toy courtesy of Digicape. We know your brands inside out, and the “for the sake of mere product placement” is getting painful. Sometimes we just want to hear that Mavis did a crap job (or a good one, either is fine). Sometimes we just want to watch a video of you getting pumped up to a Rocky tune about to take on Randall without a close up of your Ray Bans or Puma shoes. Sometimes we just want tot go back to the old days – the days when you cared for us, entertained us, and spoke to us like real intelligent people. I am (almost was)one of your most loyal fans, checking back a few times a day to see if there is new content. But lately, it’s there but it ain’t interesting, it ain’t you, and it ain’t worth coming back for. I probably speak for a lot of people when i say Seth, come back buddy, we miss you terribly. The empire may be expanding, but if it carries on like this, your audience may do the opposite. I know it’s a very real possibility for me at the moment. Please do something about it – if you want to – while you still have the chance… xx
Newreader
16 Jun 2010
sweet katypea! personally I’ve been reading 2oceansvibe for just over a year and I absolutely love it. I want to eat it in my mouth. Really I log in every single morning and just take whatever it gives me. I don’t have this obsession for seth but there is clearly a time you all went through with him before i came along. and not just me, there is a large group of us 2oceans fans who can’t seem to get enough. the point i am trying to make to you katypea is that it is probably quite hard for seth to please everyone out there. I think you need to realise that things do change. I also don’t know about mavis, but I saw a damn funny tweet on 2oceanvibe twitter about her this week. do you follow seth on twitter. I think the classic funnies are there but you are just missing them. I’m new to this place and I love it. keep it up 2oceansvibe. you’ve got me.
Pete
17 Jun 2010
I am drunk, but I like that song and think the Parlotones are cool, but then again i don’t live in that vacuum you guy’s call camps bay.
Pete
17 Jun 2010
Not sure again because i am drunk if this has been published or not, but i like these guys and this song. You farkers live in a bubble!
marc
17 Jun 2010
Nicely put Katypea. I miss the “old” 2oceansvibe. Now it is all about ads, and not about content. He’s trying to do an old media thing in a new media world. Blogs are successful because of their content. Content for the sake of promotion is going to lose more readers.
Elmari
17 Jun 2010
All issues set aside (and beside the fact that people should just grow up!) The Parletones have a right to support any team their heart desires. We do not own them, we cannot decide who they should or should not support and in the end if an opportunity arises to broaden their market, and make a bit of money in the process,all the better. That is what any sensible business person would do. Should they live on bread and water? They have bills to pay, just like all of us. So please grow up and find some better cause to yap about!
Hitler
17 Jun 2010
Vot ver die Parlotones sinking about!!!!
Rashid
18 Jun 2010
A bit off topic here, but there are already two great African artists singing world cup songs: Freshly Ground and K’naan.
Tracey
18 Jun 2010
On the subject of patriotism…I think you should revisit the word and ask yourselves why you are bashing (and have done way before the German song) a local band that is showing the world that SA has decent live acts. Youtube comments are abound with shock that they are from SA…finally something to be proud of and you on their own home turf are their biggest critics.
They are featured on the front page of Itunes, in the ABC Music lounge, in the UK Sun and have the backing of MTV USA…these are all international press….but they get this from their own local press. Just good ol SA press doing what they do best.
Parlotone fan
18 Jun 2010
I think it is stupid the way everyone is attacking the Parlotones. They a good band and they deserve to make it in the music world. Of dit nou in Suid-Afrika is en of dit in ENIGE ander deel van die wereld is, hulle VERDIEN om goed te doen. Ek sien nie hoe mense rugbyspelers aanval wat in ander lande gaan rugby speel nie.Dis maar presies dieslefde storie. Los die mense dat hulle maak en lewe soos hulle wil.
Parlies Fan
18 Jun 2010
Parlotones – you ROCK !
ExcuseMe
18 Jun 2010
Isn’t the “official” WC song sung by Shakira?
Last time I checked she couldn’t praat die taal, but maybe I’m wrong…..
Steve
19 Jun 2010
I’ve hung with the parlotones. Seen them cheat on their girlfriends, talk racist shit, snort coke etc. But never knew they’d sell their country out. Oh well their music is shit anyway. They don’t suck half as much as that shit band Wysdiman though.
Tracey
21 Jun 2010
Oh Steve…you idiot. Troll much?
I know your kind, you are part of the little people who spend their days at dingy clubs head banging your greasy heads to old out dated, badly done local hard rock bands. The one’s who repeatedly enter battle of the bands and screech to uninspired, copied rock that they will never get right. You know those bands never go anywhere. I bet you spend your dismal no end days being a sales rep in old cheap suits recovering from your beer hang over.
What will you do when the party is over and all you have is your aging beer belly, cheap boerewors, boring conversation arond a small gas braai and a dodgy little home in the shitty part of town?
Maryann
21 Jun 2010
I cannot believe how narrow minded some people on here are. They are selling music and promoting themselves – thats what they do for a living. I have seen them play in countries all over Europe and in SA and they promote their country and are very clear about where they are from and very proud about it too. Fair enough if you don’t like their music, but a hell of a lot of people do. I wonder how many of you would have done the same if you were in their shoes.
Carolyn Lourens
21 Jun 2010
You go guys. I am so tired of negative people, South Africans do not own you. Go and make your name all over the world. If the song was sung FOR THE GERMAN PEOPLE it does not mean you feel that song in your hearts. I can’t believe South Africans can feel affended by this song. I love you and I love your music, pleased to see the Germans also appreciate a good band. BEST OF LUCK WHERE EVER YOU SING.
Bee2109
28 Jun 2010
I am all for people being allowed to voice their opinions but in this case I believe that the Parlotones “haters” and Seth included are all deluded . . . Parlotones have been one of my favorite SA bands for a while, not only because of the fact that they are so talented but because they have always showed their utmost support for SA and all their SA fans! all you haters are complete hypocrites, not one of you can tell me that apart from Bafana Bafana you do not support an overseas team “Manchester United, Liverpool etc etc” and now with the World Cup – not one person can say that they are not supporting another country now that Bafana Bafana are out! As for Sean Van Staaden . . . before you criticize try and spell properly!
I love the Parlotones, they are one of the most talented bands SA has seen and something as petty and juvenile as this is not going to change my mind about them!
All you haters are certifiable!
Parlotones . . . You ROCK!!
Alan
08 Jul 2010
SETH = BIG WANKER!!!!
SETH + PARLOTONES = LOTSA BIG WANKERS!!!!
You go guys!!!
Dont stop being you , even if it means Jizzing in ya own face….
Hahahaha
Lulz to Cpt
Annie
30 Jul 2010
Shame, do I sense a bit of sour grapes? Seth, you’re one of those typical South Africans who cannot live with it when someone/some band has made it, while you’re still stuck in the tiny little island called your mind. Weigh up the differences: Parlotones rock, Seth stinks, everybody knows the Parlotones, Seth is a wannabe who gets his publicity via the band; the band has a life, Seth spunges on the lives of others, tries to drag it to his level by providing irrelevant criticism and then has to eat the pudding all over his face when those whom he critise have actually better verbal skills than him!! Get a life Seth and consider a different career!!
Pieter
22 Aug 2010
Kahn – this is a life compass I use. If I get no critisism, am am doing nothing! Like Shakira sang the theme of the SA World Cup you guys were chosen to sing for Germany. CONGRATULATIONS. You did us proud. This means that you as South Africans are so good that you were the choice before all the other bands in the world.
Michele
24 Feb 2011
Ridiculous narrow minded article….
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